Impact Character of Manipulation Examples Please

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Impact Character of Manipulation Examples Please

Postby VTFischwire » Oct 05, 2008 11:58 pm

After a long long time of trial and error I think I finally have the story engine set right for my particular story but was wanting a little advice.

I have an impact character throughline of manipulation and was wondering if I understood it right.
According to the examples in the Dramatica Book IMPACT CHARACTER THROUGHLINE TYPE ORDER ENCODING page 221-222, it seems that the impact character is looked at in terms of his impact on the main character and not neccessarily by his impact on himself.
So I think for an IC Throughline of Manipulation the IC will not neccessarily CHANGE HIS NATURE but rather expose the problems with chaging/not changing one's nature to the main character.
In the Dramatica book the sample story has the IC Throughline as one of FIXED ATTITUDE and I think I understand how that type of IC Throughline works now that I have seen the examples, but I would like to see some examples of plot encoding an IC Throughline of MANIPULATION.

by the way my MC is a Change Character who through the act of doing manages to change, while my IC is a steadfast character who continues to try and manipulate always.
The OS Throughline I think is a situation as an outside force threatens the continuation of the lifestyles of everyone in the story, or HOW THINGS ARE CHANGING
and the MC/IC story is fixed attitude but I haven't figured out much of why yet. I think it is that the MC trusts the IC without ever questioning. In the end she switches to test.

An example:
PLAYING A ROLE:
The main character is part of an organization and wants to be respected as a good member. The IC is a higher-up (leader) in the organization and reminds the MC to play her role aтв not question it.

CHANGING ONE'S NATURE:
Through constant lies and deceit and finally abondoning her when she needs them the most, the IC forces the MC to rethink her membership in the club and leave.

of course these are not in order and also not too specific to my exact story. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Vee

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Re: Impact Character of Manipulation Examples Please

Postby VTFischwire » Nov 20, 2008 1:21 pm

I posted this awhile ago and never recieved a response. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if I was in the ballpark in my understanding or could give me some examples.

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Re: Impact Character of Manipulation Examples Please

Postby Chris Huntley » Nov 20, 2008 2:50 pm

Hi Vee --

I must have missed this one. Sorry about the delayed response.

Your examples of the IC throughline sound good. Nice work.

As far as the MC/IC relationship throughline in Fixed Attitudes, conflict in their relationship will grow from a clash of attitudes. This is WHAT they think, not how they think.

For example, the MC might get jittery or nervous when around the IC which irritates the IC. The two clash over conflicting ideologies (e.g. the importance of following orders vs. the importance of individual freedom to react to changing circumstances). They argue over which ideology is more valuable and worthwhile, while evaluating its affect on their confindence in their relationship. And drawing from your notes, both parties may be far too trusting in the relationship which erupts into conflict when the trust is deemed broken.

...or something like that. :D
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