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by phillybudd
Mar 23, 2010 1:21 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Impact Character as Protagonist
Replies: 4
Views: 8259

Re: Impact Character as Protagonist

Actually what I think is another great example: Shawshank Redemption -- yes??
by phillybudd
Mar 22, 2010 3:16 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

Yeah, but I'm sure if you analyzed what he's doing, you find the same rules of fulfillment or denial of implication was going on. He may not even be aware of it (in fact most good musicians aren't), but it's there. Otherwise it's just noise.
by phillybudd
Mar 22, 2010 2:50 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

LOL! well, in the music world, people are always bitching their heads off about how music notation software is so complicated. To which I've always responded, "Since when was music notation simple?" I think that applies in a sense to this as well. As soon as I tell anyone that I'm using so...
by phillybudd
Mar 22, 2010 3:09 am
Forum: Dramatica Theory
Topic: "is" the problem vs. "source of" the problem?
Replies: 4
Views: 8356

Re: "is" the problem vs. "source of" the problem?

Thanks, Chris. Well, that sort of helps... but my real issue -- and I'm probably trying to be too black-and-white about this -- has to do with the relationship between the MC's problem/solution/symptom/response and those of the IC. Maybe a little more detail would be helpful. My MC is a change chara...
by phillybudd
Mar 22, 2010 1:50 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

Well, I know from my work in music theory that any complex idea is not only difficult to get, but difficult to write about. I think Mealnie and Chris did a fine job with the book, but as with any theory of this type you can only write about one part of it at a time. And of course, no one part exists...
by phillybudd
Mar 21, 2010 3:56 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

Hey Steve, we probably need Chris to chime in on this one and clarify. But... What I believe is going on here is that "openness, preconception, delay and choice" are simply a SUBSET of the class "The Future" -- so you're not going to EXPLORE "The Future" in terms of &qu...
by phillybudd
Mar 21, 2010 12:58 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

Here's the graphic, turns out I did have it here. So, as I said: the star represents an entire ACT, with each Throughline (OS, SS, MC and IC) having 4 points in the star for each of the 4 thematic issues. I staggered each throughline around the star (OS, MC, SS, IC, OS, MC, etc) because it allows me...
by phillybudd
Mar 21, 2010 12:22 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Impact Character as Protagonist
Replies: 4
Views: 8259

Re: Impact Character as Protagonist

Ah! Great examples, thanks!
by phillybudd
Mar 20, 2010 4:11 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

No, sorry -- I print out one sixteen-pointed star for each ACT...so I write e.g. "Act 1" in the center of the star, and then I write the Class name above each throughline, and then the four thematic variations on each point of the star, for a total of 16. I was going to attach the graphic ...
by phillybudd
Mar 20, 2010 12:49 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: characters and PSR
Replies: 19
Views: 26490

Re: characters and PSR

Szore -- my understanding is that you are free (or obligated) to explore the thematic ideas within the act as you wish. I in fact designed a graphic of a sixteen pointed star, so that for each act I can map out the four thematic idea for each of the OS, SS, MC and IC in sort of a big circle. These h...
by phillybudd
Mar 16, 2010 2:12 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: "chicken and the egg" problem for benchmark
Replies: 0
Views: 4947

"chicken and the egg" problem for benchmark

The Dramatica software assigned my IC a concern of "Developing a Plan", which is perfect. But the the IC Benchmark is "Conceiving an Idea", with the instruction "Illustrate how Conceiving an Idea is the standard against which the IC's concern (Developing a Plan) is measured....
by phillybudd
Mar 16, 2010 10:26 am
Forum: Dramatica Theory
Topic: "is" the problem vs. "source of" the problem?
Replies: 4
Views: 8356

"is" the problem vs. "source of" the problem?

I am struggling with the way in which problems (or symptoms) are defined. Looking at the Four Throughlines Themes Report for my story, I see this: ... some see Inequity as causing the problem and Equity as the means to resolve it. Others are convinced that Projection is at the heart of the problem a...
by phillybudd
Mar 10, 2010 8:13 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Impact Character as Protagonist
Replies: 4
Views: 8259

Impact Character as Protagonist

Hi Chris, on the topic of a character other than the MC being the protagonist (e.g. To Kill a Mockingbird): I'm wondering if there has been any discussion here -- or if you could point me at an example of a story where this occurs -- of the impact character as Protagonist? (By the way, I DID search ...
by phillybudd
Jan 26, 2010 10:50 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Build characters not placing them where I expect
Replies: 2
Views: 6058

Re: Build characters not placing them where I expect

Ah.. I think I just answered my own question. When I clear the story engine he goes back to being where I was expecting...
by phillybudd
Jan 26, 2010 10:49 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Build characters not placing them where I expect
Replies: 2
Views: 6058

Build characters not placing them where I expect

Hi, I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature, so please excuse if I'm not asking this in the right place. I am now on the "Build Characters" screen in Dramatica. But when I click on my main character and try to assign him the Protagonist archetype, his icons are not showing up where I ex...
by phillybudd
Jan 18, 2010 10:03 am
Forum: Dramatica Theory
Topic: "a house divided" as OS problem
Replies: 2
Views: 6746

Re: "a house divided" as OS problem

That's great, thanks for the prompt response, Chris.
by phillybudd
Jan 18, 2010 8:34 am
Forum: Dramatica Theory
Topic: "a house divided" as OS problem
Replies: 2
Views: 6746

"a house divided" as OS problem

I would like to have my OS story problem (as well as the MC problem) be something along the lines of "a house divided". It has to do with a city that is literally divided (a la the Berlin Wall), and a main character who struggles with highly conflicting inner desires. It just is not clear ...
by phillybudd
Dec 28, 2009 11:42 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Sidekick as impact character??
Replies: 4
Views: 8447

Re: Sidekick as impact character??

Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Brian. I spent the entire weekend with the software, going through all the questions -- with the book close at my side -- and I had a "breakthrough" of sorts with both the Dramatica paradigm as well as with my story. What is so interesting to me is that I...
by phillybudd
Dec 23, 2009 2:47 pm
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Sidekick as impact character??
Replies: 4
Views: 8447

Re: Sidekick as impact character??

I'd like to amend my earlier post. In fact I think I've "reversed" what I thought was my main character with the impact character. My current MC, we'll call him John -- the one with the big secret --is part of a large group that is faced with a situation they feel they must change. John is...
by phillybudd
Dec 22, 2009 7:41 am
Forum: Practical Dramatica
Topic: Sidekick as impact character??
Replies: 4
Views: 8447

Sidekick as impact character??

First, I have to say I love the Dramatica view of things. As a music theorist (originally, anyway) the I love the puzzle of it all. I've read the book and have just started using the software. My new novel is a fantasy story, told largely from the sidekick POV -- a common enough place to start. I wa...

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